You basically cook epson salt in the oven (to dehydrate it and change the crystal structure) and then mix it (1/8 dried epson salt, 7/8 acetone) with the acetone. The salt will absorb the water and chance back to it's old crystaline structure. Filter the mixture of salt and acetone and now you have dry acetone. However there is one problem with the Acetone available at hardware stores, it contains a small ammount of water. To get rid of the water you will need to make dry acetone. You basically cook epson salt in the oven (to dehydrate it and change the crystal structure) and then mix it (1/8 dried epson salt, 7/8 acetone) with the acetone. What I will post is that many of the solvents/by products formed will be soluble in acetone where meth is only very slightly soluble. So if you want more pure stuff from shake&bake, do an acetone wash over a filter, then when the acetone evaporates off (it does so very quickly), dissolve meth in as little water as possible and let it evaporate. If the meth is anything other than sparkling and white, rinse the meth in fresh acetone. Do this in the dish if you have panned the meth to one side, or rinse the meth in the filter with fresh dry acetone. Do dry the acetone before use, and do save all the rinse acetone- particularly the acetone used to flash when the dish is still warm.
Methamphetamine abuse has become a tremendous challenge for the entire Nation. Education, prevention, and community involvement are key parts of our National Strategy to reduce the demand for meth. People who know about the destructive effects of meth on the user and the community, are far less likely to use meth.
Please share what you learn about meth with everyone you know and together we will end the scourge of methamphetamine.
What is methamphetamine?
How is meth made?
How does meth affect a user?
How does meth affect everyone else?
WHAT IS METHAMPHETAMINE?
Methamphetamine is a powerful, highly addictive stimulant drug that dramatically affects the central nervous system. It is usually illegally produced and distributed.
Meth comes in several forms, including powder, crystal, rocks, and tablets. When it comes in the crystal form it is called “crystal meth.”
Meth can be taken by swallowing, snorting, smoking, or injecting it with a hypodermic needle.
HOW IS METH MADE?
Unlike drugs such as marijuana, cocaine, and heroin, which are derived from plants, meth can be manufactured using a variety of store bought chemicals.
The most common ingredient in meth is pseudoephedrine or ephedrine, commonly found in cold medicine. Through a cooking process the pseudoephedrine or ephedrine is chemically changed into meth. The ingredients that are used in the process of making meth can include: ether, paint thinner, Freon®, acetone, anhydrous ammonia, iodine crystals, red phosphorus, drain cleaner, battery acid, and lithium (taken from inside batteries).
Meth is often manufactured or “cooked” in very crude laboratories. Many of these labs are not sophisticated operations and do not require sophisticated chemistry equipment. And the people who cook the meth usually do not have any chemistry training. Cooking meth is relatively simple, but highly dangerous and toxic.
There are two basic categories of meth labs:
Superlabs produce large quantities of meth and supply organized drug trafficking groups that sell the drug in communities across the U.S. Most of the larger labs are controlled by Mexican Drug Trafficking Organizations operating in the U.S. and Mexico.
Small Toxic Labs produce smaller quantities of meth. These labs can be set up in homes, motel rooms, inside automobiles, and in parks or rural areas -- really almost anywhere.
HOW DOES METH AFFECT A USER?
Using meth causes an increase in energy and alertness, a decrease in appetite, and an intense euphoric “rush.” That’s in the short term.
With sustained use, a meth user can develop a tolerance to it. The user may take increasingly higher doses of meth trying to catch that high she first experienced. She may take it more frequently or may go on binges. She may change the way she takes meth. For example a user may have started by taking a pill, but as she develops a tolerance she may begin injecting it. Addiction is likely.
In the long term, a person using meth may experience irritability, fatigue, headaches, anxiety, sleeplessness, confusion, aggressive feelings, violent rages, cravings for more meth, and depression. They may become psychotic and experience paranoia, auditory hallucinations, mood disturbances, and delusions. The paranoia may lead to homicidal or suicidal thoughts.
A fairly common hallucination experienced by meth users is the so-called crank bug. The user gets the sensation that there are insects creeping on top of, or underneath, her skin. The user will pick at or scratch her skin trying to get rid of the imaginary bugs. This scratching can create open sores that may become infected.
Photos courtesy of Sheriff’s Department, Multnomah County, Oregon |
Meth reduces the amount of protective saliva around the teeth. Meth users also consume excess sugared, carbonated soft drinks, tend to neglect personal hygiene, grind their teeth and clench their jaws, leading to what is commonly called “meth mouth.” Teeth can eventually fall out of users’ mouths—even as they do simple things like eating a sandwich.
Photos courtesy of: Sharlee Shirley, RDH, MPH; Jim Cecil, DMD, MPH, University of Kentucky, School of Dentistry
High doses of meth can elevate body temperature to dangerous, sometimes lethal, levels. High doses can also cause convulsions.
People can die as a result of using meth.
Because meth is so addictive, the distance between the short and long term effects may not be very long.
HOW DOES METH AFFECT EVERYONE ELSE?
As you can imagine, all those toxic chemicals used in the meth manufacturing process take a toll on the environment. Every pound of meth made can generate up to five pounds of toxic waste that may seep into the soil and groundwater.
The manufacturing process also generates toxic fumes. These fumes can severely harm anyone exposed to them. Meth labs also generate highly explosive gases.
Meth also has a very serious impact on children. Many children are rescued from homes with meth labs or meth using parents. Meth, chemicals, and syringes are all within reach of these children. Parents high on meth neglect their children. And the mental, physical, and emotional consequences for these Drug Endangered Children are often severe.
Millions of our tax dollars are spent each year to clean up meth labs, to care for Drug Endangered Children, and to pay for law enforcement to deal with the meth problem.
Photo provided by: Cheyenne Albro, Director of the Pennyrile Narcotics Task Force, (Marshall Co. lab); Kentucky Drug Endangered Children Training Network. | Photo provided by: Det. Tim Ahumada & Det. Joyell Lucero, Phoenix Police Dept. |
| GO IN DEPTH: | National Institute of Justice’s Report on Methamphetamine |
Now that you know about meth, pass it on.
Pill2Chill
Introduction
sekio edit: Without lab testing, you as a layman can only guess at purity and composition of substances. Reagent color change tests can help to identify pure substances, but are unhelpful at identifying mixtures. Judging purity by weighing what you get out of a wash doesn’t work, either – there’s no guarantee that the residue is amphetamine. Bioassay (“tasting it”) isn’t of any use because of the number of drugs that can look and act similarly to amphetamines. Acetone and other solvent washes are meant to remove certain cuts you know have been added, not to purify or isolate amphetamine out of a mystery mix. (For purification of amphetamine out of mystery mixtures, acid/base extraction is the gold standard.) You can send drugs – pills, powders, or pastes to DanceSafe (http://www.pillreports.com/) or Energy Control (http://energycontrol.org/) if you want professional GCMS testing. It’s anonymous and worth the money.
Acetone and other solvents are flammable and should never be used around sparks or open flames (refrigerators, freezers, electric motors, furnaces). The vapours are volatile and can flash back to the container and cause a boiling liquid expanding vapour explosion. Always work with acetone in a well ventilated area, have something to clean up spills like vermiculite or cat litter (or paper towels or sawdust or something else absorbent) and wet it with cold water. Remember acetone will eat many plastics, paints, and varnishes.
Hey, I figured I would write down this simple guide to acetone washing as there doesn’t seem to be too much information about it on the forums and it definitely has an added HR value. This method works for cocaine hcl, amphetamine sulphate and methamphetamine.
First let’s get this common misconception out of the way. Amphetamine paste = Amphetamine sulphate =/= Amphetamine base. Another common slang is ‘eurospeed’. The base is an oily liquid that evaporates at room temp and is therefore extremely rare. Most people won’t ever come accross real amphetamine base unless they turn the sulphate into base themselves. Sulphate, or the common amphetamine ‘paste’ is not smokable (which real amphetamine base is). The paste is wet simply because it has remainders of solvents used in production, or added by dealers to add weight. Usually acetone and/or methanol, so it’s wise to let your amps dry before using them, even if you’re not cleaning your amphetamines, as both of those are very detrimental to the body. You can easily dry amphetamine sulphate ‘paste’ by smearing out the wanted amount on a DVD case (or whatever you have available), waiting 5 minutes and then scraping it together, or if you’re more patient just leave the open baggy on the heater and all the solvents will evaporate until you’re left with dry amphetamine sulphate.
Amphetamine sulphate, as well as cocaine are often cut with caffeine and other nasty active ingredients. When you’re 100% certain of your source (doubtful in most cases) or can have it tested in a lab (I’m thinking Netherlands, Belgium) you will have no use for this method, but if you’re buying and using it and do not have that certainty: there’s this easy way to clean your amphetamines and remove most of those active cuts. (A good indication for caffeine in amphetamines/cocaine is that it won’t chop to powder easily; but rather clump together and be a little sticky. What you’re left with after an acetone wash will be a product that powders very easily and is notably more pure.) It’s very simple; basically the nasty active cuts are soluble in acetone whereas amphetamines, cocaine and meth are not. A LOT of the cuts will be taken out by this method; but if it’s cut with anything that is insoluble in acetone, that cut will of course be left behind.
Requirements
Amphetamine sulphate (duh)
this is what it looks like, straight from my dealer, uncleaned and in its ‘paste’ form. (aka, a little wet with nasty solvents…)
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Pure acetone.
Why pure? If it’s not pure, it’s likely to contain other solvents that will dissolve amphetamines, thus making a wash impossible. It’s not hard to find; I get mine at the hardware store across the street
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a dish This can be a simple plate with some depth, as can be seen in the second pic of the first item on the list, but there are probably better alternatives. Use your imagination.)
A syringe and a Q-tip.10ml is best, or even bigger is better if you’re using a needle. On the pic below it’s a 5ml I believe.
(Needle optional, but it does facilitate the process. The gauge used in the pic is about right, smaller is fine too but if it’s too thin it’ll take more time.)
http://puu.sh/9fzOo/b55a6ed122.jpg
Alternatively you could use a coffeefilter, I advise against this as more amphetamines gets left behind in the filter this way.
Procedure
Cut open the baggy, remove the amphetamines, place on tray/plate.http://puu.sh/9fhag/e499a5567f.jpg
Pour acetone over the amphetamines until it is well covered with acetone. If you need a ml amount; 10-15ml per gram is plenty. You can use as much as is convenient, just try to make it so you’re not wasting too much acetone. Make sure the edge of your tray/dish is high enough so you can still stir it without spilling anything.
Stir, make sure all the amphetamines are spread out and that there’s no “lumps” left. The solution in your plate will be cloudy.
Give it a minute to settle.
Now take your syringe, and using the qtip as a filter, draw up the acetone with your syringe. Depending on the size of your syringe this can take a few times but shouldn’t be too hard.I didn’t use a needle in this wash. The settled amphetamines can be clumpy like in the picture as long as it was properly stirred.
http://puu.sh/9qfe4/5f0530c806.jpg
When you’ve drawn up all of the acetone that you used in the plate, and squirted it all in a container you’ll be left with a pretty wet white paste, scrape this together.http://puu.sh/9qfzL/9c707c002d.jpg
Wait about 10-15mins for it to dry. Acetone is very volatile so it wil dissipate in no time. The amphetamines you’ll be left with will be much, much purer, and cleaner in effects. They will also be more ‘rocky’ instead of sticky (if there was caffeine in them), and will chop up to powder a lot faster and easier.10 minutes after scraping the amphetamines together, this was the result:
http://puu.sh/9qfGE/46415ef96d.jpg
See any mistakes? Feel free to respond if something is unclear or if you see anything wrong with this post.
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clubcard
Neat – has any one dared to freebase & smoke (the liquid) I think dissolving freebase if caffeine or such might be the stuff called ‘base’.
klekip
Does anyone know the safety of putting acetone through standard plastic syringes? It seams like it would leach some chemicals from the plastic?
Just a thought
sekio
Food grade PETE, HDPE, LDPE, FET/PTFE/Teflon, or polypropylene, like many oral syringes are made of, should be OK and have no extractables. Metals are OK but acetone will remove any grease, oil or pant on them. Most chemical bottles are glass, HDPE, or FET/PTFE and should be fine, although cap liners are sometimes polystyrene.
Natural rubber, polycarbonate, acrylic, or polystyrene will all dissolve in acetone. Vinyl (like electrical tape) or the adhesive on labels will dissolve too.
Look up a material compatibility chart on google for more.
tricomb
I just glanced over this and will check it out in detail later, but PLEASE put it in large red bold letters about the safety measures and precautionary protective gear that one must use and be aware of when handling, transporting, using, storing, opening, etc, such a volatile Ketone.
I only mess with anhydrous acetone and seriously, people cannot disregard how explosive and volatile it is.
I would add links to the MSDS of every chemical that in and of itself is an HR risk if not properly respected and researched prior to going out and buying and using relevant compounds. I’d do it myself but I gotta run right now, but otherwise looks good, good job P2C 🙂
Lots of chemicals say that they are flammable or to not use around open flame etc, but a lot of the time it’s written for legal liability issues for the MFC, and I assure anyone reading this, that you need to be SERIOUSLY thinking about static discharge, pilot lights, ANYTHING that could cause the more-than-5-times-as-explosive-as-gasoline compound that is Acetone. Respect the solvent and you should be okay, but of all the things to be safer vs sorry, this is not one of the one’s anyone should think “meh, it’ll be fine, it’s not stuffy in here so I don’t need to worry about the ventillation of this enclosed area.” Disregarding the safety precautions associated with anhydrous compounds like acetone is SUICIDAL and like I said, just to be safe, treating it like it’s Plutonium is a good idea even though it’s an exaggeration, I’m factoring in here that both methamphetamine and cocaine tend to make people delusional in a minor to severe way that even minor feelings of “yeah thats not gunna happen to me, I’ll just be careful, but wear a respirator? I don’t have asthma it’ll be fine.” etc.
Stimulants make you feel more invincible than you are, and since it’s stimulant users who will be using this, it’s important to me to be so explicitly clear that under the influence, you are not a good judge of your own character, so you may unknowingly decide not to do something meant to reduce the risk of making lethal mistakes that a sober and sane person wouldn’t make.
sekio
Acetone is flammable, but not ultra explosive-flammable, like things like ether, propane, acetylene, hydrogen, MAPP or butane – gases or liquids with very high vapour pressure. The boranes, carbon disulfide and diazomethane are probably the kings of bad news but they are only ever used in specific industrial processes.
Just keep it away from open flames, and sources of ignition, and you’ll be fine.
Acetone is also pretty much nontoxic. Your body makes it from fat molecules when they are metabolized. Just keep it out of any warm wet places like eyes and don’t intentionally consume any more than about 5ml in a day. (Some people use it as a solvent for things like salvia tinctures because it dissolves salvinorin better than alcohol) Work with it in a well ventilated area or outside, the vapour can irritate your lungs in large amounts.
llamer
this is a good method because it doesn’t require filtration. i don’t recommend percolating washes because there is a tendency to acquire fibers from the filter you are using that get into the product you want clean.
hardware store acetone is not going to be anhydrous and probably nowhere near dry enough to do this without wasting some product. you can dry your acetone with stuff like anhydrous epsom salt and other dessicates, although they might deposit in the material you are trying to purify. if your amphetamine still looks or feels wet when there is no more acetone smell, or if you see liquid left in your glass jar where you dumped the acetone but there’s no smell coming off it then your acetone has water in it. save that jar for when you run out of speed and don’t mind smoking your acetone wash for whatever the water took out of your stash during rinsing.
i wouldn’t worry about fire during any of this unless you can’t go five minutes without lighting up a cigarette. i’ve done this like fifty times in spaces lacking even an open window and i never had anything to worry about. it’s no more dangerous than building a model airplane.
Gizzlefrtiz
So ….
Gizzlefrtiz
So…. I have
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Acetone 16 oz (~500 mL) 99.9+% pure
could I do it in beakers and filter with Filter Paper Qualitative Medium 18cm (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0019ZGTSC/ref=oh_details_o05_s01_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1)????
monstersink81
If after acetone is used as stated, the outcome is a tanish orange substance with small orange crystals? What are the possibilities this is?
redbull1969
Hi sekio,
How about ammonia, I know people use it with coke , to be able to smoke it. If the speed is cleaned, can you smoke it then too?
redbull1969
Hi sekio,
How about ammonia, I know people use it with coke , to be able to smoke it. If the speed is cleaned, can you smoke it then too?
Jamyj49
Sounds valid. I’m getting ready to try
sekio
If you mix your amphetamine with ammonia you’ll freebase it and get an oily, shit-smelling, corrosive liquid.
The free base of amphetamine is not a drug of commerce. People smoking speed usually do it with the HCl salt.
If after acetone is used as stated, the outcome is a tanish orange substance with small orange crystals? What are the possibilities this is?
We don’t allow substance ID. It could be damn near anything.
alute
What if you use denature alcohol or vodka?
KINGCRIMSON
would this work on 3,4-CTMP HCI, dichlorolmethyphenidate ? for injection ?
creamynebula
About the discussion about the materials, the materials the syringe are made are actually irrelevant no? I mean, isn’t the acetone you are taking with the syringe going to be discarded, and the product eventually consumed the undissolved amphetamine left in the plate?
Or am I misunderstanding and the amphetamine is actually going to dissolve in acetone and be extracted this way so its not a wash?
trunkofmycar
Very helpful information!! Thanks. (:
Pill2Chill
About the discussion about the materials, the materials the syringe are made are actually irrelevant no? I mean, isn’t the acetone you are taking with the syringe going to be discarded, and the product eventually consumed the undissolved amphetamine left in the plate?
Or am I misunderstanding and the amphetamine is actually going to dissolve in acetone and be extracted this way so its not a wash?
Precisely. 🙂
hadora
personnaly i would rather use distillation rather than a simple acetone wash, it’s no more complicated and the product will be probably more than 90+% pure
Rossak
cool read.. 😀
Sprout
Glad someone bumped this – brilliant thread.
P2C would you mind if I used this over in EADD?
It’s 10x better than I could come up with so… 🙂
beels
Would this method remove glucose powder from base amphetamine?
darrelltj78
I assume when you say “pure”acetone that means not from the hardware store, how can you tell the difference?
mackmaine
would something like this work
http://www.walmart.com/ip/ONYX-Professionals-100-Pure-Acetone-Nail-Polish-Remover-16-fl-oz/11047134
it says 100% pure, yet the second ingredient is denatonium benzoate. would this end up messing up the gear? or i can use it same as described in the above steps
Neithman
Acetone Wash Meth Instructions
would something like this work
http://www.walmart.com/ip/ONYX-Professionals-100-Pure-Acetone-Nail-Polish-Remover-16-fl-oz/11047134
it says 100% pure, yet the second ingredient is denatonium benzoate. would this end up messing up the gear? or i can use it same as described in the above steps
well take a little bit of your gear and try it but i wouldnt be suprised if it doesnt work
mackmaine
How To Clean A Meth Bowl
figures :/